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Notes from John Palfrey
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Topic #1: Wireless Access from a neighbor or at a coffee shop
John Palfrey on Saturday, December 16, 2006 at 12:16 AM wrote:
Dear Steve, and hi Bill!
Thanks so much for your message. I haven't written about it, but I agree
with the thrust of what Jennifer Granick, my Stanford colleague, says.
If someone has secured the network and you have to hack your way in,
then it's definitely unlawful to do so. If someone leaves the network
unsecured, though, then it's an open question. Under the law, it's a
gray area. I'd say it's unethical to rely on a neighbor's open
connection to avoid buying your own. But I don't think it's unethical to
pop on a network on an ad hoc basis if it's clearly left open,
especially if you also pay for connectivity somewhere else, like at home
or school. But there's definitely room for debate. I hope all is well at
your two schools!
Topic #2: Student Use of Copyright Pictures in Projects
hi John ... based on our phone conversation yesterday, here are 4
examples of "the issue"
- a girl posts this graphic of Darfur from wikipedia and uses attribution ...
click
- a girl posts a picture of Spitzer from masslive with attribution
... click
- a girl posts a Powerpoint on line about Fahrenheit 451 and Ray
Bradbury and uses graphics and attribution ...
... click
- a girl posts a Powerpoint on line about The Joy Luck Club and Amy
Tan and uses graphics and attribution ...
... click
by the way we do have a link to "copyright friendly sites" on our main Current Students Web page where it says "Finding Pictures" but the issue has to do with using non-copyright friendly graphics on educational Web pages that are eminently public (not behind an intranet)
... hope these 4 examples are sufficient for you to start thinking about this issue!
John Palfrey on Monday, March 5, 2007 at 3:07 PM wrote:
Dear Steve:
Thanks so much for the chance to review these examples. I look forward
to catching up about these topics in person and on the phone, but a few
quick reactions:
- Much of what you've shown below is almost
certainly expression that would be copyright violation on its face, but
in context, *may* be protected by the fair use doctrine. Many of the
works are copyrighted by someone, not always clear by whom. But the way
that the students use them are unlikely to have much of a negative
effect on the market for the copyrighted works (the most important, and
4th, factor in the analysis), are for non-commercial purposes, involve
commentary, are transformative in some cases, and so forth.
(Attribution, as you know, is important academically, but does not
provide much if any cover in legal terms.) We might go through each one
carefully when we talk, as they each have different contours to them
(the Wikipedia material, for instance, is offered under a favorable
license generally).
- It's plausible that Amy Tan could make a claim against your school
for PowerPoint 4, say. My strong guess is that she would not, for all
manner of reasons, but one big question for you and for the school is
whether or not you're willing to run any copyright risk at all. One of
the big problems in copyright is the lack of clarity around the fair use
defense. Even when you have a strong such defense, someone can get into
court against you, and you'd have to defend.
- We might reasonably pull apart two issues: 1) the school's policy on
copyright, from the perspective of what you tell the girls and require
of them and 2) how the school works with the girls as a matter of
copyright education and how you handle complaints. I think it may be a
very sensible policy approach to encourage student self-policing on
copyright, give them tools to make good decisions, and respond to
take-down notices when examples of wrong-doing come your way (the
Section 512 notice and take-down provision).
- The notion of giving "best practices" information, of the sort you
reference about "copyright friendly sites", makes a lot of sense.
Much more to discuss. I look forward to it.
Best,
John
Another example with video
Hi everyone,
In 2 weeks I'm doing a 4 day project with a group of 5th, 6th and 7th graders. ÊMy goal is to have them create a video podcasts remixing video/audio and images of civil rights leaders to original music.
I'm relying heavily on Youtube and other video sites to find primary sources (video) of Malcolm X, MLK, clips from Eyes on the Prize etc, but I'm nervous about allowing students to grab media and re-use it for their own projects becasue feel like I'm teaching copyright infringement.
I know there's software like camtasia and even freeware (Iike tubesock) that saves what you find as quicktime movies.
If we use found footage, I of course will be vigilant about having the kids cite sources. ÊI know citing youtube is not sufficient, so I've already created a mini lesson where they have to find the origins of a youtube video of MLK. Ê
Any feedback or thoughts?
Andrew Gardner
Educational Technologist
The School at Columbia University
John Palfrey on Wednesday, March 21, 2007 at 9:36 PM wrote:
Hi Steve:
Andrew Gardner's example is exactly yours, in video form. The only
possible difference is that the MLK estate is one of the most litigious
entities I've ever come across, so I'd be particularly careful about
using any "I have a dream" type of material online.
Best,
John
This URL from Cornell that covers section 107 of copyright:
click
Four important questions (first and fourth are most important)
- what is the purpose and character? non-profit or educational
or commercial? is it transformative?
"the purpose and character of the use, including whether such use is of a commercial nature or is for nonprofit educational purposes"
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"the nature of the copyrighted work"
- how much of the work are you using?
"the amount and substantiality of the portion used in relation to the copyrighted work as a whole"
- effect on the market place?
"the effect of the use upon the potential market for or value of the copyrighted work"